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Reflections about the value of Jesus ransom to also include the demons.
The bigger value of Jesus ransom
Here come thoughts and reflections that I received the last nine years. Why I writes this is because it where requested from the spirit world to do so. But it won’t be any book, it would mean too much research and work so I present it as thoughts and reflections and then receivers may do their own judgment off it all. However, maybe first I shall tell a little about my background.
My mother’s name was Ida Maria Magdalena and she had what she said a childlike faith but was not especially religious by herself. My parents were divorced when I was five years old and I became raised by my mother. She where a schoolmistress and had her social relations with her colleagues so my growth was very much by myself in my own thoughts.
The Bible has always interested me, I began to read it early in my life, and I always had it with me. When I was around seven – eight years old, I became saved and confess all my sins, so much that I come up to at that age. It went over but felt glorious when it happened. At adult age I studied with Jehovah’s witnesses and where a member in approx twenty years. My wife left me and after two years, I met another woman and am of this reason excluded. Nevertheless, I have big respect for their knowledge in the Bible. However, as you will understand knowledge isn’t everything.
The Bible’s foremost theme
The Bible’s foremost theme is the ransom arrangement with Jesus Christ. It is an advantage to have studied The Bible but I shall try to pilot you forth to how I’m thinking. All I say is based on The Bible as an authority and my understanding off it. I use the name Jehovah on God since it is what I believe in. Now, to how it all began some years ago.
I sat on my balcony and a spirit put himself in the door opening and said that we need to acquire your help. Help with what I asked and why ask an earthly human being when you have a bigger perspective in existence and in lifespan. We are sitting in a “prison” and want you to help us out from here. (I insert some Bible words here and there).
(“In this [state] also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison”) 1 Peter 3:19.
But it is impossible I sad, you know as well that you have broken with The Creator in a perfect state just like Adam and he became judged to the death. Yes but we yet want you to look at it. An impossible task I sad, but I shall think on it and all you can do is to distribute so much love you can and yet that will not help but in all cases you don’t do no more evil, became my spontaneous answer. A truthfully answer with the insight I had at that time. Took me than two years of thinking before the answer came to me and additional two years Bible studies before I realized and understood that the answer I received held entire all the way up to The Creator, Jehovah God himself.
Jesus Christ has a unique position in the entire creation, about him it says.
(“He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.”) Colossians 1:15, 16.
So first of all the spirit world is created, the invisible and then the visible this is enormously big if you think about the size of the universe. So, all was arranged and have a big cosmic universal affectionate plane where it would advice peace, concord, balance, beauty, perfection, joy and all alike words that you can think of. So what happened?
In The Bible the Devil is mentioned as “the father of lie”.
(“Jesus said to them: “If God were YOUR Father, YOU would love me, for from God I came forth and am here. Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth. Why is it YOU do not know what I am speaking? Because YOU cannot listen to my word. YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. Because I, on the other hand, tell the truth, YOU do not believe me. Who of YOU convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it YOU do not believe me? He that is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why YOU do not listen, because YOU are not from God.”) John 8:42-47.
(“The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Everyone who does not carry on righteousness does not originate with God, neither does he who does not love his brother.”) 1 John 3:10.
He is also identified as a “Dragon” that “drags a third of the stars of heaven”.
(“and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child.”) Revelation 12:4.
It will means myriads.
(“And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders, and the number of them was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: “The Lamb that was slaughtered is worthy to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.”) Revelation 5:11, 12.
These fallen angels made themselves to the Devils children in a spiritual sense (those who in thought and action are prompted by the devil, and so reflect his character) in revolting against The Creator Jehovah God. Jehovah already created these through his son Jesus Christ before they fell.
(“because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.”) Colossians 1:16.
Adams children was not born when the Devil made rebellion, but from Jehovah’s attitude seen they already existed since his plan for the creation already where clear, they were just not born yet. In order to buy them free it requires a corresponding ransom, that is a life off equally value as Adams perfect life. Therefore the virgin birth.
Jehovah’s justice required such a corresponding ransom to our father Adam.
(“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times.”) 1 Timothy 2:5,6.
(“For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.”) 1 Corinthians 15:22.
This completed what Jehovah required in orders to not do renounce on his own norms, and simultaneously lead his intentions with an earthly paradise forward to its fulfillment with a human family that worship Jehovah by love to him. There we know that we all have a freely choice. Jehovah’s principle goes everywhere, both for the heavenly but also for the earthly. We pray that his will shall take place (“as in heaven, also upon earth”).
(“YOU must pray, then, this way: Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.”) Matthew 6:9, 10.
So to the Devil’s spiritual children
When Jesus life was transferred from the heavenly and man finally took his life here on the earth so did he die consequently both as a spirit being and as a perfect human being. He was totally gone from existence in three days as it was predicted.
(“The Son of man must undergo many sufferings and be rejected by the older men and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised up.”) Luke 9:22.
(“From that time forward Jesus Christ commenced showing his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the older men and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised up.) Matthew 16:21.
(“God raised this One up on the third day and granted him to become manifest”) Acts 10:40.
(“For just as Jo´nah was in the belly of the huge fish three days and three nights, so the Son of man will be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.”) Matthew 12:40.
The words ”be killed” in Matthew 16:21 and “be slain” in Luke 9:22 is ”apokteino” in the original text, STRON´GS NUMBER g615, and can be translated with ”to deprive of spiritual life.”
From Jehovah’s point of view is legally seen the Devil´s spiritual children thereby bayed free through this ransom. The same principle as for the earth. But here goes also a freely choice for them. But the possibility exists.
(“Fathers should not be put to death on account of children, and children should not be put to death on account of fathers. Each one should be put to death for his own sin”) Deuteronomy 24:16.
The same principle.
(“And then he will send forth the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity.”) Mark 13:27.
What is it that shall gather together in the heavens if everything already is as it should be there? In order to
(“for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, namely, to gather all things together again in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth. [Yes,] in him,”) Ephesians 1:10.
We know that eternal dead is what waits for those who chooses that, so also the soul’s death.
(“And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Ge•hen´na.”) Matthew 10:28.
So also for the Devil´s angels.
(“And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.”) Jude v.6.
Pay attention that “he has reserved” and further,
(“Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.”) Matthew 25:41.
Again, pay attention that it says “prepared for”.
Nowhere in The Bible has it said about the fallen angels that they become judged. While it on the other hand says about the Devil that he “has been judged”.
(“then concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.”) John 16:11.
Jesus says about Satan that
(“I began to behold Satan already fallen like lightning from heaven.”) Luke 10:18.
The Bible further says that it is “the dragon” that will be bound for a thousand years.
(“And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while.”) Revelation 20:1-3.
That is mentioned in Revelation 20:10 “the wild beast” and “the false prophet” is the entire political system where “the false prophet” on the same time is “the wild beast’s” seventh head. These are political system, not any single individual whether on the earth or from the spirit world. This is what I understand today a misinterpretation by Jehovah´s Witnesses who means that “the wild beast” and “the false prophet” aims on the demons and therefore they shall be destroyed with Satan, which is a wrong interpretation.
That “the wild beast” is a worldwide political system and that “the false prophet” reefer to the Anglo-American empire is clear apparent in all their explanations of these verses in their literature as far as I can recollect.
Longest back in their own translation to Swedish beneath “BIBLISKA ÄMNEN FÖR SAMTAL” that now been changed to “BIBLISKA SAMTALSÄMNEN” in their last revised edition of The Bible on Swedish year 2003 there is the following explanation in the paragraph 6. The devil, demons // beneath C. Demons are angels that done rebellion // Shall be destroyed with Satan. Then they referee to these verses. Matthew 25:41, Luke 8:31, Revelation 20:2, 6, 10.
Yet another translation of The Bible on Swedish was given out the same year 2003 and its called: Nya världens översättning av Den Heliga Skrift –studieutgåva med fotnoter och parallellhänvisningar.
That is two Bible’s on the same year. The later –studieutgåva they calls The Big Bible and the other more commonly translation The Small Bible by any cause that you only can speculate over. Maybe they refer if so it agrees with reality to, the physical size. In which cases it will not change the understanding of the text in The Bible concerning “the dragon” in Revelation 20:1-3 that says that it is only “the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan” who will be bound for a thousand years. This is also entirely correct interpreted in both these Bibles.
What is on the other hand confusing is what it says beneath “TILLÄGG” on page 1700 right column in –studieutgåvan with allusion to the angel’s that sinned. Stands like this:
It means that the only thing that they have to await for there own part is a dark future, that according to The Bible comes to imply eternal annihilation along with their sovereign Satan, the Devil.
According to The Bible?
It is not according to The Bible but from without their interpretation of The Bible beneath “BIBLISKA ÄMNEN FÖR SAMTAL”, “BIBLISKA SAMTALSÄMNEN” and beneath “TILLÄGG” in their last –studieutgåva in Swedish as they also called The Big Bible.
Well, what I understand so have the fallen angels on the contrary an ability to change their attitude because of that Jesus also died as a spirit being
(“so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”) Philippians 2:10, 11.
Put mark to that Jesus “preached to the spirit in prison”.
(“Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous [person] for unrighteous ones, that he might lead YOU to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit. In this [state] also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.”) 1 Peter 3:18-20.
The same man that said to his follower.
(“Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw YOUR pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip YOU open.”) Matthew 7:6.
Why waste time to preach for anyone that is already condemned. Jehovah´s Witnesses organization preach because there exist an ability for people to change in sense, a work that must be done in orders for Jehovah to finally be able to condemn the entire world.
(“If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.”) John 15:22.
(“and YOU, in turn, are to bear witness, because YOU have been with me from when I began.”) John 15:27.
(“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”) Matthew 24:14.
Jehovah would not only set the earth in movement without also the heaven.
(“At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, saying: “Yet once more I will set in commotion not only the earth but also the heaven.”) Hebrews 12:26.
The demons never doubted that Jesus was a son of God.
(“At the sight of Jesus he cried aloud and fell down before him, and with a loud voice he said: “What have I to do with you, Jesus Son of the Most High God? I beg you, do not torment me.”) Luke 8:28.
But the Devil did.
(“At this the Devil said to him: “If you are a son of God, tell this stone to become a loaf of bread”) Luke 4:3.
The demons plead Jesus.
(“And they kept entreating him not to order them to go away into the abyss.”) Luke 8:31.
Depended this probably of not knowing from their point of view at that time? There are such things that only Jehovah himself knows.
(“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”) Matthew 24:36.
For me so extends this the value of Jesus ransom to also include the Devil´s heavenly children. None another than Jesus would be able to give his heavenly life to a corresponding ransom for these fallen angels since he is “the firstborn of all creation”.
(“He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens.”) Colossians 1:13-20.
The Bible says about Jehovah “I will have mercy upon whomever I do have mercy”.
(“What shall we say, then? Is there injustice with God? Never may that become so! For he says to Moses: “I will have mercy upon whomever I do have mercy, and I will show compassion to whomever I do show compassion.” So, then, it depends, not upon the one wishing nor upon the one running, but upon God, who has mercy.”) Romans 9:14-16.
Jehovah has bring forth an administration
(“This he caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and good sense, in that he made known to us the sacred secret of his will. It is according to his good pleasure which he purposed in himself for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, namely, to gather all things together again in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth. [Yes,] in him, in union with whom we were also assigned as heirs, in that we were foreordained according to the purpose of him who operates all things according to the way his will counsels, that we should serve for the praise of his glory, we who have been first to hope in the Christ. But YOU also hoped in him after YOU heard the word of truth, the good news about YOUR salvation. By means of him also, after YOU believed, YOU were sealed with the promised holy spirit, which is a token in advance of our inheritance, for the purpose of releasing by a ransom [God’s] own possession, to his glorious praise.”) Ephesians 1:8-14.
See here additional evidence on God’s “riches and wisdom and knowledge”.
(“O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments [are] and past tracing out his ways [are]! For “who has come to know Jehovah’s mind, or who has become his counselor?” Or, “Who has first given to him, so that it must be repaid to him?” Because from him and by him and for him are all things. To him be the glory forever. Amen.”) Romans 11:33-36.
God’s son Jesus Christ was “made manifest namely, to break up the works of the Devil”.
(“He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from [the] beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.”) 1 John 3:8.
Jesus is both high priest and king according to the manner of Melkisedek
“ Also, a man takes this honor, not of his own accord, but only when he is called by God, just as Aaron also [was]. So too the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but [was glorified by him] who spoke with reference to him: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.” Just as he says also in another place: “You are a priest forever according to the manner of Mel•chiz´e•dek.” Hebrews 5:4-6.
“ For this Mel•chiz´e•dek, king of Sa´lem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him and to whom Abraham apportioned a tenth from all things, is first of all, by translation, “King of Righteousness,” and is then also king of Sa´lem, that is, “King of Peace.” Hebrews 7:1,2.
The high priest Aaron offered two offers
One thing to notice is that Aaron offered two offers. One for himself and his house and one for the people.
(“And Aaron must present the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make an atonement in behalf of himself and his house; and he must slaughter the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself.) Leviticus 16:11.
(“And he must slaughter the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, and he must bring its blood inside the curtain and do with its blood the same as he did with the bull’s blood; and he must spatter it toward the cover and before the cover.”) Leviticus 16:15.
Jesus died these two offers simultaneously when mankind took his life. One for the spirit world closest God which also include the 144.000 that is intended to live in the spiritual existence, and one for the people that is intended to live here on the earth in a visible material existence.
A new turn in the war
Think about what a fighter Jehovah God is, that now in the end uncover or give to understand that they who put themselves on the challenger the Devils side now have the ability to return to him thanks to the bigger value of Jesus ransom that also include the Devil´s heavenly children. The Devil´s army falls broken more and more and Jehovah´s love increases more and more. When the Devils army swaps side in the heaven the same things happens here on the earth. The evil pass to the good. That is what happens. It is directly reflected here. More and more information about what happens will be distributed over the earth and it is love it deals utmost with. We are all creators in the cosmos development an only by unselfish love, tolerance and consideration we can cooperate and reach the goal with our development.
This thought is entirely new but for me it shows a yet bigger dimension of Jehovah´s love and what an outstanding value Jesus ransom has. The Bible never says about the fallen angles that they are domed even if they for this moment are hurled down to the earth.
(“So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.”) Revelation 12:9.
Just like us they exist under a dome, but as I see it there is a way back to Jehovah, they chose is up to each and every one of them, if they will proceed with the Devil that already is domed or take the possibility that has been opened in that Jesus also offered his heavenly spiritual life and become recreated to a spirit being after three days.
His spiritual life was what he really offered. His perfect human life he offered to but that life he also have the right to since he became unjust judged when he was down here on the earth. It is that right he gave up to the benefit for Adams children. It lays a difference in these two offers that was done simultaneously here on the earth. His life as a spirit being he got back from Jehovah, he didn’t own the right to that life, without Jehovah showed his love back to him and sat him on his right side.(“Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies beneath your feet.”) Matthew 22:44.
Even if an excluded one writes this, there is no attack against Jehovah´s Witnesses organization here on the earth, that I have full respect for and for the people that works for that Jehovah´s intentions shall reach its perfection.
(“On account of this I bend my knees to the Father, to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name, to the end that he may grant YOU according to the riches of his glory to be made mighty in the man YOU are inside with power through his spirit, to have the Christ dwell through [YOUR] faith in YOUR hearts with love; that YOU may be rooted and established on the foundation, in order that YOU may be thoroughly able to grasp mentally with all the holy ones what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of the Christ which surpasses knowledge, that YOU may be filled with all the fullness that God gives.”) Ephesians 3:14-19.
Yes, Christ’s love surpasses knowledge.
The spirit visitor
Here comes something additional in order to relate to my initiation. It has been shown to me a very mighty spirit being wearing golden office clothes, he has never said anything to me, more like mind transference, but I have understood that he been waiting for me to explain the solution for those “spirits in prison”. For myself I have believed that it would be enough to explain it for the spirits since it was them ho put the question, but apparently also earthly people shall get to know and *smiles* in this writing moment a wonderful rainbow shows outside my window where I’m sitting, actually there is two on each other, all the rainbows colors, very mighty, take that as a sign on that what I’m doing is correct and right.
I lived here in 14 years but never seen the rainbow so near and never on this side of the building for the lake lies on the other side, well what was it now that I would have said, yeah in orders for all to understand how near a chance to a globally life in love that we are now. This mighty angel gave me one Sunday morning his name.
First, I take a Bible verse so you realize what I mean.
(“Love never fails. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with. For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially; but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will be done away with.”) 1 Corinthians 13:8, 9, 10.
“but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will be done away with”. Therefore, we are near. But what is it that is complete?
The angel that awoke me that Sunday morning said, “My name is Inex”. I responded and said I remember the name. “Go and write it up” became the answer, which I sleepy did. When I later awoke I could not remember the name, but then I remembered that I would write it up so now I indeed hoped that I did so. Yeah truly, on a note in the kitchen it stood Inex. On the way back to the bedroom it was said to me “read 1 Corinthians 13:e chapter”, and I did so, then came wonders about what “complete” could be, then came the next assignment, “check up the world Inex” in your dictionary, which I did.
Inexten´so means “complete”, in Swedish “fullständig”. I got to set me down on a chair take a breath and start to think. Inex is an abbreviation same as Jah is for Jehovah.
What knowledge to be removed?
According to Strong´s dictionary it is the Christianity Knowledge.
After all these events I am convinced that it was needed the fully understanding of the value of Jesus ransom to also include the spirit world that is the “complete” that was missed and that now the cosmic plane will come to go faster against the universal togetherness in the spirit world and with the spirit world in love.
Now, think that an excluded one from a religious body would receive such information. But I believe that if I where held in something what so ever, it would have been impossible to be so free in thoughts that the information would have reached through, so there exist a meaning with it all.
The Bible I referred to is, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Jehovah´s Witnesses own translation) only because that they use a modern language and at the same time point out an misinterpretation of the same, but I believe that it have any bigger importance, if you want you can always compare with other translations.
Yes, prophesying, tongues and knowledge is removed. What remains is that God is love. God loves you and the whole of his creation no matter what your religion, church, sect or community says. You are where ever you are, whatever you done loved by God through the value of Jesus' ransom.
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments nor things now here nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38, 39
God is love.
Love one another.
Wish You All
Peace and Freedom